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Post by TheWallSpoke on Sept 30, 2007 0:03:58 GMT -5
Aww. I only download mp3 files. I wasn't aware that they couldn't carry viruses, now I'm even happier that I only download mp3's! ^_^ What did you sister put on the computer that gave it a virus and caused it to crash? no idea, I don't know if there is a way to pinpoint where exactly the virus originated from, but my boyfriend was able to find the trojan virus on her account. She's not exactly the brightest crayon in the box, so it could have been just about anything, really.
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Post by Redd on Sept 30, 2007 11:16:29 GMT -5
Ahh. I see.
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Post by Archer112 on Oct 3, 2007 10:14:13 GMT -5
Aww. I only download mp3 files. I wasn't aware that they couldn't carry viruses, now I'm even happier that I only download mp3's! ^_^ What did you sister put on the computer that gave it a virus and caused it to crash? Ugh, viruses are nothing to worry about. MP3 files can carry viruses as, MP3 is only an encoding, people can sneak all kinds of stuff into the file.
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Post by TheWallSpoke on Oct 14, 2007 23:45:30 GMT -5
Aww. I only download mp3 files. I wasn't aware that they couldn't carry viruses, now I'm even happier that I only download mp3's! ^_^ What did you sister put on the computer that gave it a virus and caused it to crash? Ugh, viruses are nothing to worry about. MP3 files can carry viruses as, MP3 is only an encoding, people can sneak all kinds of stuff into the file. hahahahahaha wow. I see you also happen to be computer stupid as well. That was two dumb statements one right after the other.
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Post by Archer112 on Oct 15, 2007 10:59:47 GMT -5
Ugh, viruses are nothing to worry about. MP3 files can carry viruses as, MP3 is only an encoding, people can sneak all kinds of stuff into the file. hahahahahaha wow. I see you also happen to be computer stupid as well. That was two dumb statements one right after the other. You do know that every file is coded into a computer in exactly the same way. The only thing that makes the computer know that you are using ASCII rather than BMP or some form of audio is a header in the file, that takes up a various amout of space. You could open a mp3 file and get letters, if you used wordpad.
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Post by TheWallSpoke on Oct 15, 2007 11:33:27 GMT -5
hahahahahaha wow. I see you also happen to be computer stupid as well. That was two dumb statements one right after the other. You do know that every file is coded into a computer in exactly the same way. The only thing that makes the computer know that you are using ASCII rather than BMP or some form of audio is a header in the file, that takes up a various amout of space. You could open a mp3 file and get letters, if you used wordpad. no shit, archer. But unfortunately for you right now, that still doesn't matter. mp3 files are read-only. they have no function whatsoever on your computer other than to be read by a music playing program, and therefore have no output on the computer itself. So you can try to put viruses in the mp3 file all you want, but since the file is read-only, it's not going to have any effect whatsoever.
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Post by Archer112 on Oct 15, 2007 13:32:38 GMT -5
You do know that every file is coded into a computer in exactly the same way. The only thing that makes the computer know that you are using ASCII rather than BMP or some form of audio is a header in the file, that takes up a various amout of space. You could open a mp3 file and get letters, if you used wordpad. no shit, archer. But unfortunately for you right now, that still doesn't matter. mp3 files are read-only. they have no function whatsoever on your computer other than to be read by a music playing program, and therefore have no output on the computer itself. So you can try to put viruses in the mp3 file all you want, but since the file is read-only, it's not going to have any effect whatsoever. All mp3 is, is an encoding. Any one can encode a audio file into mp3 with a virus on it. After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding. Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as. Same thing for placing a virus on it. Computers are stupid, essentialy all they can do is add two numbers together. It just happens that they have a huge.
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Post by TheWallSpoke on Oct 15, 2007 23:43:11 GMT -5
no shit, archer. But unfortunately for you right now, that still doesn't matter. mp3 files are read-only. they have no function whatsoever on your computer other than to be read by a music playing program, and therefore have no output on the computer itself. So you can try to put viruses in the mp3 file all you want, but since the file is read-only, it's not going to have any effect whatsoever. All mp3 is, is an encoding. Any one can encode a audio file into mp3 with a virus on it. After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding. Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as. Same thing for placing a virus on it. Computers are stupid, essentialy all they can do is add two numbers together. It just happens that they have a huge. not exactly. "Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as." Read-only certainly does make a difference when we get down to whether or not an mp3 can give your computer a virus. I'm not talking about what the file consists of, I'm talking about about it not having any output on your computer. If it is read-only, it cannot possibly put a virus on to your computer. I never said if it's read only it cannot be edited, but not even the dumbest of retards would even BOTHER because it cannot effect your computer. It would be a complete waste of time. So no, mp3's do not carry viruses because they cannot be transferred in that way.
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Post by TheWallSpoke on Oct 16, 2007 11:09:18 GMT -5
no shit, archer. But unfortunately for you right now, that still doesn't matter. mp3 files are read-only. they have no function whatsoever on your computer other than to be read by a music playing program, and therefore have no output on the computer itself. So you can try to put viruses in the mp3 file all you want, but since the file is read-only, it's not going to have any effect whatsoever. All mp3 is, is an encoding. Any one can encode a audio file into mp3 with a virus on it. After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding. Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as. Same thing for placing a virus on it. Computers are stupid, essentialy all they can do is add two numbers together. It just happens that they have a huge. And by the way, it is pretty damn apparent that you are now talking out of your ass. First of all, ISO has nothing at all to do with MP3 files. ISO is a disk image. It is in no way related to mp3 files themselves, only for CD storage of any type of file. So I don't know what it is you're trying to say with "After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding".... ...and if you want to break down a computer to it's simplest form it cannot "add two number together", the only two numbers it knows are 1 and 0 for yes and no. nice try, though.
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Post by Archer112 on Oct 16, 2007 14:18:17 GMT -5
All mp3 is, is an encoding. Any one can encode a audio file into mp3 with a virus on it. After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding. Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as. Same thing for placing a virus on it. Computers are stupid, essentialy all they can do is add two numbers together. It just happens that they have a huge. And by the way, it is pretty damn apparent that you are now talking out of your ass. First of all, ISO has nothing at all to do with MP3 files. ISO is a disk image. It is in no way related to mp3 files themselves, only for CD storage of any type of file. So I don't know what it is you're trying to say with "After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding".... ...and if you want to break down a computer to it's simplest form it cannot "add two number together", the only two numbers it knows are 1 and 0 for yes and no. nice try, though. No retard. ISO is the International Standards Organisation that sets standards for almost anything, such as, I dont know. The standard for decoding mp3 files. The file format ISO is infact, a standard set by this organisation, also. 0 and 1 are two numbers and it can add them together. It gives the binary value 1, of course, you can also have the binary value of 10, or even, 11. Actually, let me rephrase that last part. Binary can be considerd a form of morse-code, there dots (0) and dashes (1) are joined in sequence to make values. But the most basic idea is the same as normal numbers. you get place values, but instead of 10, it goes up in a double of the privious number, and starts with 0, then 2, then 4, then 8. 1 simply means, that this place value is active, 0 means that is it not. When you get more than one, since the system only allows 1 as the highest number, a new place value starts. 8 4 2 0 1 0 1 1 = 11. Then, depending on what you want, this sequence of code is processed in a certain way, for a certain funtion. So it can, in effect, add numbers together. But what I meant was, the only calculation it can do when it is dealing with our numbers(or binary code representation of our numbers) is add them. It can not times, devide, take away or anything else. It just adds.
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Post by Archer112 on Oct 16, 2007 14:23:45 GMT -5
All mp3 is, is an encoding. Any one can encode a audio file into mp3 with a virus on it. After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding. Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as. Same thing for placing a virus on it. Computers are stupid, essentialy all they can do is add two numbers together. It just happens that they have a huge. not exactly. "Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as." Read-only certainly does make a difference when we get down to whether or not an mp3 can give your computer a virus. I'm not talking about what the file consists of, I'm talking about about it not having any output on your computer. If it is read-only, it cannot possibly put a virus on to your computer. I never said if it's read only it cannot be edited, but not even the dumbest of retards would even BOTHER because it cannot effect your computer. It would be a complete waste of time. So no, mp3's do not carry viruses because they cannot be transferred in that way. Read-only does not mean that files can not write to your computer. It means that you can only read something, and generaly, not modify it.
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Post by TheWallSpoke on Oct 16, 2007 19:24:47 GMT -5
And by the way, it is pretty damn apparent that you are now talking out of your ass. First of all, ISO has nothing at all to do with MP3 files. ISO is a disk image. It is in no way related to mp3 files themselves, only for CD storage of any type of file. So I don't know what it is you're trying to say with "After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding".... ...and if you want to break down a computer to it's simplest form it cannot "add two number together", the only two numbers it knows are 1 and 0 for yes and no. nice try, though. No retard. ISO is the International Standards Organisation that sets standards for almost anything, such as, I dont know. The standard for decoding mp3 files. The file format ISO is infact, a standard set by this organisation, also. 0 and 1 are two numbers and it can add them together. It gives the binary value 1, of course, you can also have the binary value of 10, or even, 11. Actually, let me rephrase that last part. Binary can be considerd a form of morse-code, there dots (0) and dashes (1) are joined in sequence to make values. But the most basic idea is the same as normal numbers. you get place values, but instead of 10, it goes up in a double of the privious number, and starts with 0, then 2, then 4, then 8. 1 simply means, that this place value is active, 0 means that is it not. When you get more than one, since the system only allows 1 as the highest number, a new place value starts. 8 4 2 0 1 0 1 1 = 11. Then, depending on what you want, this sequence of code is processed in a certain way, for a certain funtion. So it can, in effect, add numbers together. But what I meant was, the only calculation it can do when it is dealing with our numbers(or binary code representation of our numbers) is add them. It can not times, devide, take away or anything else. It just adds. So when you said that "After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding." What you really meant was "there is no International Standard Organization for the encoding for mp3 files"? Either way, you're still not making any sense. You see, I assumed you were actually trying to be gramatically correct in the framing of your sentence so when you said ISO I assumed you meant a specific file system (.iso, or ISO 9660), not the organization to standardize said file system. So no, I am not the retard here, because you see, I interpreted your sentence correctly according to the way you wrote it. If you want me to know exactly what you're talking about, try being gramatically correct. And I know how binary works, but thank you anyway for the tutorial. Unfortunately, I regret having to tell you that I didn't read any of it.
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Post by TheWallSpoke on Oct 16, 2007 19:54:08 GMT -5
not exactly. "Read-only makes no difference when we get down to what a file is. It does not acctually mean a file can not be, oh say, moved into an executable program like a wave studio, edited than saved. Even if you are prevented from saving, you can save as." Read-only certainly does make a difference when we get down to whether or not an mp3 can give your computer a virus. I'm not talking about what the file consists of, I'm talking about about it not having any output on your computer. If it is read-only, it cannot possibly put a virus on to your computer. I never said if it's read only it cannot be edited, but not even the dumbest of retards would even BOTHER because it cannot effect your computer. It would be a complete waste of time. So no, mp3's do not carry viruses because they cannot be transferred in that way. Read-only does not mean that files can not write to your computer. It means that you can only read something, and generaly, not modify it. I know that read-only means that you can only read something and not modify it. I wasn't trying to say that "read-only" means that the file cannot write to your computer. BUT in the case of an mp3, because the file is read-only the only thing you can do with it is open it up in a music playing program and read it through the program. And because of this, there is no way for it to have any kind of output onto your computer. Jesus christ you are one dumb fuck. www.news.com/Virus-watchers-seek-to-mute-MP3-hoax/2100-1001_3-269254.htmlPARAGRAPH NUMBER FIVE, JACKASS: "... data files such as MP3s cannot execute by themselves and thus cannot have computer viruses embedded in them."Are you done trying to argue this yet, archer? You're wrong. Again. Give it up already.
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Post by Archer112 on Oct 17, 2007 11:49:48 GMT -5
No retard. ISO is the International Standards Organisation that sets standards for almost anything, such as, I dont know. The standard for decoding mp3 files. The file format ISO is infact, a standard set by this organisation, also. 0 and 1 are two numbers and it can add them together. It gives the binary value 1, of course, you can also have the binary value of 10, or even, 11. Actually, let me rephrase that last part. Binary can be considerd a form of morse-code, there dots (0) and dashes (1) are joined in sequence to make values. But the most basic idea is the same as normal numbers. you get place values, but instead of 10, it goes up in a double of the privious number, and starts with 0, then 2, then 4, then 8. 1 simply means, that this place value is active, 0 means that is it not. When you get more than one, since the system only allows 1 as the highest number, a new place value starts. 8 4 2 0 1 0 1 1 = 11. Then, depending on what you want, this sequence of code is processed in a certain way, for a certain funtion. So it can, in effect, add numbers together. But what I meant was, the only calculation it can do when it is dealing with our numbers(or binary code representation of our numbers) is add them. It can not times, devide, take away or anything else. It just adds. So when you said that "After all, there is no ISO for the encoding for mp3 files, only for decoding." What you really meant was "there is no International Standard Organization for the encoding for mp3 files"? Either way, you're still not making any sense. You see, I assumed you were actually trying to be gramatically correct in the framing of your sentence so when you said ISO I assumed you meant a specific file system (.iso, or ISO 9660), not the organization to standardize said file system. So no, I am not the retard here, because you see, I interpreted your sentence correctly according to the way you wrote it. If you want me to know exactly what you're talking about, try being gramatically correct. And I know how binary works, but thank you anyway for the tutorial. Unfortunately, I regret having to tell you that I didn't read any of it. Thats fine, its good practice for me. Saying ISO was correct. ISO being one of many organisations that do that. ISO also being the standards they set. The standard for file systems on a disk is an ISO. By standard and file type. The whole problem rests with the sentence being out of context.
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Post by Archer112 on Oct 17, 2007 11:51:38 GMT -5
Read-only does not mean that files can not write to your computer. It means that you can only read something, and generaly, not modify it. I know that read-only means that you can only read something and not modify it. I wasn't trying to say that "read-only" means that the file cannot write to your computer. BUT in the case of an mp3, because the file is read-only the only thing you can do with it is open it up in a music playing program and read it through the program. And because of this, there is no way for it to have any kind of output onto your computer. Jesus christ you are one dumb fuck. www.news.com/Virus-watchers-seek-to-mute-MP3-hoax/2100-1001_3-269254.htmlPARAGRAPH NUMBER FIVE, JACKASS: "... data files such as MP3s cannot execute by themselves and thus cannot have computer viruses embedded in them."Are you done trying to argue this yet, archer? You're wrong. Again. Give it up already. The argument was not if a MP3 can execute, it was if it can carry a virus.
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