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Post by Redd on Aug 9, 2007 19:54:44 GMT -5
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What band?
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Aug 10, 2007 16:34:01 GMT -5
A more complete list of my favorite musical artists, copied from my myspace.
Alexisonfire, All That Remains, Anti-Flag, As I Lay Dying, At The Drive-In, At The Gates, Atmosphere, Avenged Sevenfold, The Beatles, Beck, Between the Buried and Me, Binary Star, The Black Dahlia Murder, Black Sabbath, The Bled, Johnny Cash, The Casualties, Chevelle, City and Colour, Coldplay, Comeback Kid, Cynicism 323, Danzig, Darkest Hour, Dave Matthews Band, Miles Davis, Dido, Dr. Dre, The Doors, Dropkick Murphys, The Eagles, Every Time I Die, From Autumn to Ashes, God Forbid, Gorillaz, Jimi Hendrix, The Human Abstract, Ice Cube, In Flames, Ahmad Jamal, Job For A Cowboy, Norah Jones, Yokko Kanno, The Killing Tree, Led Zeppelin, A Life Once Lost, Living Legends, Malphrenia, The Mars Volta, Metallica, MF Doom, Nas, Nirvana, The Number Twelve Looks Like You, Pearl Jam, People Under the Stairs, Pink Floyd, Pixies, Protest the Hero, Radiohead, Rise Against, The Rolling Stones, Rush, The Sex Pistols, The Strokes, 10,000 Maniacs, Thes One, Tool, A Tribe Called Quest, Underoath, Uriah Heep, Kanye West, The Who.
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Post by Redd on Aug 10, 2007 17:13:15 GMT -5
Avenged Sevenfold ripped off Death and Falconer.
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Aug 10, 2007 22:30:30 GMT -5
Avenged Sevenfold ripped off Death and Falconer. Hmm I'll have to listen to those bands then. I must admit that City of Evil sounds kind of like if Guns N Roses made a good album. Which would mean replacing Axl and complicating their song structures a bit. So A7X aren't the most original band, but I still like their sound.
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Post by Redd on Aug 10, 2007 23:52:55 GMT -5
For Falconer: Listen to the beginning of their song "The Coronation" and then listen to Avenged Sevenfold's "Trashed and Scattered" As for Death: youtube.com/watch?v=CSit-Ea-1rY
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Aug 11, 2007 2:07:04 GMT -5
For Falconer: Listen to the beginning of their song "The Coronation" and then listen to Avenged Sevenfold's "Trashed and Scattered" As for Death: youtube.com/watch?v=CSit-Ea-1rYI don't agree with the death rip off. I mean, yeah they are similar riffs with similar chord progressions, but if you listen to any metalcore music, it always has riffs like that. I mean, listen to all that remains, himsa, in flames, atreyu, as i lay dying, and other such bands and you'll hear a barrage of similar riffs. what death song is that? it's pretty good.
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Post by Redd on Aug 11, 2007 2:35:41 GMT -5
That's because most metalcore bands rip each other off. =/
"Spirit Crusher." It's off The Sound Of Perseverance.
Also don't compare Death to metalcore bands. Death are well... Death metal.
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Aug 11, 2007 17:24:33 GMT -5
That's because most metalcore bands rip each other off. =/ "Spirit Crusher." It's off The Sound Of Perseverance. Also don't compare Death to metalcore bands. Death are well... Death metal. look I'm just pointing out that that particular riff sounded like a metalcore riff and to call its sound anything but is elitist. I'm not saying Death are metalcore, I'm just saying that riff has all the characteristics of a metalcore song. I agree there are too many metalcore bands that rip each other off. I only like the ones that I feel have originality to them, like I think A7X are pretty original sometimes, As I Lay Dying sometimes have a unique sound on some of their songs, The Bled are just plain crazy sometimes, Between the Buried and Me are pretty weird, All That Remains have a pretty good singer, Protest the Hero sound like Rush in some spots, The Human Abstract have ridiculously technical guitar work...and well that's most of the metalcore I like.
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Post by Redd on Aug 11, 2007 17:30:02 GMT -5
No, it doesn't.
You DO know that metalcore is hardcore with some metal elements, correct? That is a death metal riff, some metalcore bands are also known as "deathcore" -- In other words, they have elements of death metal, so they may incorporate death metal riffs into their music.
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Aug 12, 2007 2:17:06 GMT -5
No, it doesn't. You DO know that metalcore is hardcore with some metal elements, correct? That is a death metal riff, some metalcore bands are also known as "deathcore" -- In other words, they have elements of death metal, so they may incorporate death metal riffs into their music. yes I know what metalcore is, but if that riff isn't metalcore, then A7X, as i lay dying, august burns red, himsa, atreyu, and a whole lot of other "metalcore" bands are not metalcore. they are deathcore then. and I'm fine with that, but a lot of so-called metalcore bands thrive on riffs like that.
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Post by Redd on Aug 12, 2007 11:15:52 GMT -5
I thought I established that Avenged Sevenfold are thieves. They're hard rock (they used to be metalcore, I believe...) So yes, they will have DM riffs in "their" music.
Deathcore is metalcore!
Also you're calling Death metalcore again.
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Aug 12, 2007 16:07:04 GMT -5
I thought I established that Avenged Sevenfold are thieves. They're hard rock (they used to be metalcore, I believe...) So yes, they will have DM riffs in "their" music. Deathcore is metalcore! Also you're calling Death metalcore again. ok well I didn't know deathcore and metalcore were the same thing. and I honestly don't think A7X are thieves. so they have one riff that sounds like a Death riff. so what. name me another instance in which they've stolen something. and also, I honestly dont think the riffs sounded uncannily similar, I just thought that "unholy confessions" sounded influenced by the other one. and I'm not calling Death metalcore. I'm saying that that style of riffing, that melodic death metal type of riff is used heavily in metalcore music. or detahcore. or whatever the fuck you wanna call that genre.
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Post by Redd on Aug 12, 2007 19:00:59 GMT -5
"ok well I didn't know deathcore and metalcore were the same thing" Deathcore is pretty much a subgenre of metalcore.
Influenced? Wow. So I guess taking the same damn riff and changing a few notes and playing it crappily makes it influenced, eh? Also Avenged Sevenfold are HARD ROCK. Death are METAL. You cannot have a metal band as an influence if you're making hard rock music.
Death's earlier material was pure death metal. Their later material was more of a progressive/death metal sound. Quit calling them melo-death. Stop talking. You've already proven to me you have a very limited knowledge on music.
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Aug 12, 2007 19:23:37 GMT -5
"ok well I didn't know deathcore and metalcore were the same thing" Deathcore is pretty much a subgenre of metalcore. Influenced? Wow. So I guess taking the same damn riff and changing a few notes and playing it crappily makes it influenced, eh? Also Avenged Sevenfold are HARD ROCK. Death are METAL. You cannot have a metal band as an influence if you're making hard rock music. Death's earlier material was pure death metal. Their later material was more of a progressive/death metal sound. Quit calling them melo-death. Stop talking. You've already proven to me you have a very limited knowledge on music. wow ok, you just uttered the stupidest words I have heard in a long time. A7X can't have death as an influence because they're hard rock? so, wait, bands can't have multiple genres? they have to be confined to one? so, let me see, according to this logic, the mars volta couldn't possibly be influenced by miles davis, pink floyd, bad brains, metallica, and circle jerks, because those bands are all different genres and therefor couldn't ever influence one band. people can't possibly ever have variety in musical taste, I guess huh? you don't think it's possible that maybe the members of avenged sevenfold actually like death metal and are influenced by it? oh, no, they're hard rock, they're no way that could be. ok, listen, I didn't call Death melodic death metal. I called that riff melodic death metal. it fucking is. listen to at the gates, in flames, or darkest hour. all of those bands rely heavily on riffs that sound just like that. I have no doubt Death are death metal, I mean their fucking name gives that away pretty much. but to deny that that riff sounds like it's straight off att the gates' slaughter of the soul would be retarded. and I suppose I should clarify this, since no doubt you will take it this way, that I am NOT implying that death stole shit from at the gates, I'm actually implying that at the gates ripped off death's riff-style.
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Post by Redd on Aug 12, 2007 19:46:40 GMT -5
It is impossible to be more than one genre. I'm stupid? Someone call the WHAMBULANCE for this musical dumbfuck. Now you're pissing me off. You're a fucking retard. I never said someone couldn't like more than one genre of music.
If they were influenced by death metal, they would be death metal, not fucking hard rock.
Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU KNOW FUCKING. NOTHING. ABOUT METAL MUSIC. How many metal bands have you listened to? Ten? Twenty? Death's later sound is progressive/death metal. Do me a huge fucking favor and listen to Dream Theater. DT are pure progressive. STOP FUCKING CALLING THAT DEATH RIFF MELO-DEATH METAL! If you have to label it something, call it a progressive/death metal riff! Oh my god, are you calling Darkest Hour melo-death? My god, you just totally destroyed any credibility you once had. They're metalcore.
PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!
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