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Post by Krissy on Jul 23, 2005 18:50:01 GMT -5
:)Youll see what happens when you read the book!
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Post by Cupcake Avenger on Jul 23, 2005 21:29:36 GMT -5
:)Youll see what happens when you read the book! fine then I guess I have to read the book just to find out who the hell this "mud-blood prince" is.
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Post by Kamikaze Parrot on Jul 24, 2005 13:29:41 GMT -5
I am still convinced that Snape was killing Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders. Okay, say that Snape told Dumbledore about The Unbreakable Vow. Dumbledore knew that Draco can never kill, so he told Snape to kill him when the time comes. That was why Draco and Snape were arguing because Snape probably said that he can never kill. Dumbledore (like he told Harry) told Snape to obey him no matter what. When Draco couldn't kill Dumbledore, Snape knew he had to. Its just the same with Harry and Dumbledore. He told Harry to keep feeding him the water even if its poisoned. Harry did as he was told. Feeding the poisoned potion to Dumbledore is just like killing Dumbledore, but Snape, (like Harry) did as he was told. Dumbledore knows everything, he knows that Draco was up to something, he knew where the Horcruxes were hidden, he knew that Rosmerta was under the Imperis Curse, and he knows that Voldemort wanted to kill Dumbledore. Why else would Dumbledore know that Snape "will be gone by the end of the year" if they hadn't been planning it? And think about it, its quite pathetic that Dumbledore, Albus Percival Wulfric Dumbledore, Headmaster of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardy, member of the International Confederation of Wizards, and Chief Warlock of the Wizengamots would die "pleading" someone for mercy? If my theory is correct, then Dumbledore knew if he didnt die with Snape telling him to, that Snape, Draco, and the Malfoys would all die, plus him. He knew he would die either way, so he knew he had to save someones lives. One of the last things Snape said to harry, "Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!", could have been the last bit of advice Snape could have given Harry: To close his mind and he wouldnt be blocked anymore. (Occlumency). He also said, "Have you forgotten our orders? Potter belongs to the Dark Lord-we are to leave him! Go! Go!" So Snape didnt want Harry dead, but he had already disobeyed Voldemorts orders when he killed Dumbledore, because Voldemort wanted Draco to kill him, not Snape, so why would Snape care? I also think R.A.B. is Regulus Black. Think about it. In the message in the locket in the cave, R.A.B. referred to Voldemort as "The Dark Lord." Only Voldemorts supporters call him The Dark Lord. We all know Regulus Black was a death eater before he died. And he died because he betrayed Voldemort. Regulus could easily have known about the horcruxes. So, we all know the locket in the cave wasnt a horcrux. Where is the real one? If my theory is correct, remember when in The Order of the Pheonix when they were cleaning out the house? They found a locket that they couldn't open? This very well could have been the real horcrux if Regulus Black brought it there. If this theory is correct, it is very well possible at least one more horcrux could be at the Black House. If this is correct, it is very well possible Kreacher has it, seeing as how he kept all the junk Sirius was throwing out. If Harry picks up on this, as Harry does have the house, Kreacher would have to obey Harry when Harry says to give him all the junk that Sirius threw out. JK rowling said she did not want to introduce any new characters as she wanted to wrap everything up, not start things. Regulus Black is the only characters with the initials R.A.B. Im not sure of his middle name, but im pretty sure that its Alphard, Sirius's uncles middle name. 1. Why would Dumledore know he would get killed? .. if so.. wouldnt he try to prevent it in some better way then this.. ? 2. He knew Snape would quit because of the curese. (If you remember since Voldemort was refused the post no teacher has ended more than one year)
the last thing I dont know
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Post by Kamikaze Parrot on Jul 24, 2005 13:39:41 GMT -5
oh, someone is a halfblood prince in the book that helps harry out somewhat. but, i modified my post so go see what i wrote up there. how do you know it helps him ?
He just reads what someone wrote 50 years ago..
this is what I still dont get
If snape is the half blood prince..
when they are finding clues about the book.. they say it cant be Harrys father writing it.. because he didnt go at the school at time it was used..
but snape went to the school at the same time as Harrys father ??
and the trick that is used in the book Harrys father makes on Snape... if snape was so good ? why didnt he use those tricks.. or even better back at Harrys father ?
thats why I was 99% sure who the half blood prince was..
1. It was used 50 years ago.. 2. The person writing the notes clearly developed new tricks from old spells to make them better.. (like someone for example did with the crusifix sp*) 3. He calls himself the half blood prince.. becayise to me he would be a half blood from a very respectful witch family
... so this falls perfectly in on Lord Voldemort himself..
not snape..
Im annoyed... and still not completely convinsed it is snape even though the book tells me it is him..
hmm.. maybe snape is possesed by Voldemort ?
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Post by Krissy on Jul 24, 2005 15:15:50 GMT -5
I am still convinced that Snape was killing Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders. Okay, say that Snape told Dumbledore about The Unbreakable Vow. Dumbledore knew that Draco can never kill, so he told Snape to kill him when the time comes. That was why Draco and Snape were arguing because Snape probably said that he can never kill. Dumbledore (like he told Harry) told Snape to obey him no matter what. When Draco couldn't kill Dumbledore, Snape knew he had to. Its just the same with Harry and Dumbledore. He told Harry to keep feeding him the water even if its poisoned. Harry did as he was told. Feeding the poisoned potion to Dumbledore is just like killing Dumbledore, but Snape, (like Harry) did as he was told. Dumbledore knows everything, he knows that Draco was up to something, he knew where the Horcruxes were hidden, he knew that Rosmerta was under the Imperis Curse, and he knows that Voldemort wanted to kill Dumbledore. Why else would Dumbledore know that Snape "will be gone by the end of the year" if they hadn't been planning it? And think about it, its quite pathetic that Dumbledore, Albus Percival Wulfric Dumbledore, Headmaster of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardy, member of the International Confederation of Wizards, and Chief Warlock of the Wizengamots would die "pleading" someone for mercy? If my theory is correct, then Dumbledore knew if he didnt die with Snape telling him to, that Snape, Draco, and the Malfoys would all die, plus him. He knew he would die either way, so he knew he had to save someones lives. One of the last things Snape said to harry, "Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!", could have been the last bit of advice Snape could have given Harry: To close his mind and he wouldnt be blocked anymore. (Occlumency). He also said, "Have you forgotten our orders? Potter belongs to the Dark Lord-we are to leave him! Go! Go!" So Snape didnt want Harry dead, but he had already disobeyed Voldemorts orders when he killed Dumbledore, because Voldemort wanted Draco to kill him, not Snape, so why would Snape care? I also think R.A.B. is Regulus Black. Think about it. In the message in the locket in the cave, R.A.B. referred to Voldemort as "The Dark Lord." Only Voldemorts supporters call him The Dark Lord. We all know Regulus Black was a death eater before he died. And he died because he betrayed Voldemort. Regulus could easily have known about the horcruxes. So, we all know the locket in the cave wasnt a horcrux. Where is the real one? If my theory is correct, remember when in The Order of the Pheonix when they were cleaning out the house? They found a locket that they couldn't open? This very well could have been the real horcrux if Regulus Black brought it there. If this theory is correct, it is very well possible at least one more horcrux could be at the Black House. If this is correct, it is very well possible Kreacher has it, seeing as how he kept all the junk Sirius was throwing out. If Harry picks up on this, as Harry does have the house, Kreacher would have to obey Harry when Harry says to give him all the junk that Sirius threw out. JK rowling said she did not want to introduce any new characters as she wanted to wrap everything up, not start things. Regulus Black is the only characters with the initials R.A.B. Im not sure of his middle name, but im pretty sure that its Alphard, Sirius's uncles middle name. 1. Why would Dumledore know he would get killed? .. if so.. wouldnt he try to prevent it in some better way then this.. ? 2. He knew Snape would quit because of the curese. (If you remember since Voldemort was refused the post no teacher has ended more than one year)
the last thing I dont know
1. Well, only if my theory is correct dumbledore knew he was getting killed, because Snape might have told him. and honestly, i think he would be able to find out if something was happening at hogwarts, he knows everything. So, if snape told him about the unbreakable vow, then dumbledore knew he was going to die either by draco or snape. So, he might not have wanted to sacrifice snape in order to save himself, so he told snape to kill him. -but- this is all theory. 2. i dont get what you mean by this, but maybe dumbledore gave the job to snape, because dumbledore knew it would be his final year anyways with teh plan and everything, but he was the only one besides harry and voldemort who knew about the curse, and why would dumbledore give the job to snape if they hadnt been planning it? dumbledore knew snape had to stay at hogwarts, i mean dumbledore trusted snape a lot, and would want snape there if anything would happen to him.
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Post by Krissy on Jul 24, 2005 15:17:53 GMT -5
oh, someone is a halfblood prince in the book that helps harry out somewhat. but, i modified my post so go see what i wrote up there. how do you know it helps him ?
He just reads what someone wrote 50 years ago..
this is what I still dont get
If snape is the half blood prince..
when they are finding clues about the book.. they say it cant be Harrys father writing it.. because he didnt go at the school at time it was used..
but snape went to the school at the same time as Harrys father ??
and the trick that is used in the book Harrys father makes on Snape... if snape was so good ? why didnt he use those tricks.. or even better back at Harrys father ?
thats why I was 99% sure who the half blood prince was..
1. It was used 50 years ago.. 2. The person writing the notes clearly developed new tricks from old spells to make them better.. (like someone for example did with the crusifix sp*) 3. He calls himself the half blood prince.. becayise to me he would be a half blood from a very respectful witch family
... so this falls perfectly in on Lord Voldemort himself..
not snape..
Im annoyed... and still not completely convinsed it is snape even though the book tells me it is him..
hmm.. maybe snape is possesed by Voldemort ?
well it did help harry by passing potions, and getting the felix felicous potion to help win quidditch, remember? so yes i think the book did help harry. i dont get the thing about the half blood prince being snape either, i thought the same thing. i think it was just a mistake by jk rowling.
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Post by Kamikaze Parrot on Jul 24, 2005 15:18:42 GMT -5
1. Why would Dumledore know he would get killed? .. if so.. wouldnt he try to prevent it in some better way then this.. ? 2. He knew Snape would quit because of the curese. (If you remember since Voldemort was refused the post no teacher has ended more than one year)
the last thing I dont know
1. Well, only if my theory is correct dumbledore knew he was getting killed, because Snape might have told him. and honestly, i think he would be able to find out if something was happening at hogwarts, he knows everything. So, if snape told him about the unbreakable vow, then dumbledore knew he was going to die either by draco or snape. So, he might not have wanted to sacrifice snape in order to save himself, so he told snape to kill him. -but- this is all theory. 2. i dont get what you mean by this, but maybe dumbledore gave the job to snape, because dumbledore knew it would be his final year anyways with teh plan and everything, but he was the only one besides harry and voldemort who knew about the curse, and why would dumbledore give the job to snape if they hadnt been planning it? dumbledore knew snape had to stay at hogwarts, i mean dumbledore trusted snape a lot, and would want snape there if anything would happen to him. Im not convinced
but we will see in a year or two
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Post by Kamikaze Parrot on Jul 24, 2005 15:21:45 GMT -5
how do you know it helps him ?
He just reads what someone wrote 50 years ago..
this is what I still dont get
If snape is the half blood prince..
when they are finding clues about the book.. they say it cant be Harrys father writing it.. because he didnt go at the school at time it was used..
but snape went to the school at the same time as Harrys father ??
and the trick that is used in the book Harrys father makes on Snape... if snape was so good ? why didnt he use those tricks.. or even better back at Harrys father ?
thats why I was 99% sure who the half blood prince was..
1. It was used 50 years ago.. 2. The person writing the notes clearly developed new tricks from old spells to make them better.. (like someone for example did with the crusifix sp*) 3. He calls himself the half blood prince.. becayise to me he would be a half blood from a very respectful witch family
... so this falls perfectly in on Lord Voldemort himself..
not snape..
Im annoyed... and still not completely convinsed it is snape even though the book tells me it is him..
hmm.. maybe snape is possesed by Voldemort ?
well it did help harry by passing potions, and getting the felix felicous potion to help win quidditch, remember? so yes i think the book did help harry. i dont get the thing about the half blood prince being snape either, i thought the same thing. i think it was just a mistake by jk rowling. well.. what I meant was that the book helped Harry.. but I dont think it was any magic or intention by the "half blood prince" to help him. He just read the notes.
yup.. but does rowling make big mistakes like that ?
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Post by Krissy on Jul 24, 2005 15:22:05 GMT -5
2 years.
well at least thats what rowling said.
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Post by Krissy on Jul 24, 2005 15:24:49 GMT -5
well it did help harry by passing potions, and getting the felix felicous potion to help win quidditch, remember? so yes i think the book did help harry. i dont get the thing about the half blood prince being snape either, i thought the same thing. i think it was just a mistake by jk rowling. well.. what I meant was that the book helped Harry.. but I dont think it was any magic or intention by the "half blood prince" to help him. He just read the notes.
yup.. but does rowling make big mistakes like that ?
nah i dont think it had any magic or intention either. i dont know. its a big part of the book, wouldnt she have caought it?
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Post by Kamikaze Parrot on Jul 24, 2005 15:28:18 GMT -5
well.. what I meant was that the book helped Harry.. but I dont think it was any magic or intention by the "half blood prince" to help him. He just read the notes.
yup.. but does rowling make big mistakes like that ?
nah i dont think it had any magic or intention either. i dont know. its a big part of the book, wouldnt she have caought it? yup..
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Post by Krissy on Jul 24, 2005 15:31:17 GMT -5
Well i just asked some people, and they said that Snape got his book secondhand from his mother.
Im not at all sure where it says this in the book but ill look real quick.
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Post by Kamikaze Parrot on Jul 24, 2005 15:35:08 GMT -5
Well i just asked some people, and they said that Snape got his book secondhand from his mother. Im not at all sure where it says this in the book but ill look real quick. yes.. maybe thats correct
but if he was this good with spells... why did he let Harrys father and his friends bully him ?
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Post by Krissy on Jul 24, 2005 15:35:14 GMT -5
I found where it said it
On page 637 of the american version.
well its where hermione just got back from the library looking for who R.A.B. is, and she said she found info that Snapes mother once owned the book.
well snape said as he was leaving hogwarts that james used his own spells against him.
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Post by Kamikaze Parrot on Jul 24, 2005 15:41:17 GMT -5
I found where it said it On page 637 of the american version. well its where hermione just got back from the library looking for who R.A.B. is, and she said she found info that Snapes mother once owned the book. well snape said as he was leaving hogwarts that james used his own spells against him. ok
then Im convinced I guess...
almost....
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